You feel like you're doing everything right for your health, but you're constantly starting over Second-guessing yourself or chasing the next thing this episode is for you because one of the biggest reasons your body Isn't responding the way you wanted to isn't lack of effort It's lack of consistency or honestly a lack of permission to stay the course long enough to see what actually works for you And this isn't just true for your health It shows up in how we make decisions, how we show up in our personal lives, and how we relate to ourselves. Today I'm joined by Mari Wuellner, founder of Crew Life Coaching Collective And we're talking about what it really means to give yourself permission to start small, to be consistent, to even Let things be a little bit boring. What I love about this conversation is how much it overlaps with the work I do with clients because whether we're talking about health, habits, or life direction, the principles are the same Let's get into it.
Welcome back to the harness your health podcast I am so excited to introduce you to my new friend Mari Wuellner She is the CEO and founder of the Crew Life Coaching Collective Helping women grant themselves permission to say no, to change direction, to reach for more, and to design life on their own terms. At 24, as a college dropout and single mom, she built a state farm agency from 0 to 3 million in annual premium, then granted herself permission to scale and pursue coaching full-time Her permission granted talk draws from countless permission slips She's had a right along the way permission to try when unqualified, permission to leave, permission to prioritize herself, and permission to say after my run without apologizing. Mari's mission is to be a catalyst for others to realize the magic of a life truly lived on purpose, one permission slip at a time.
Welcome Mari. Thank you so much for having me I am so excited to begin with this conversation. I feel like it's gonna be really juicy.
Yes, it is for sure So I just want to start out by saying I found you on a podcast group on Facebook This is a pretty new podcast and there's a bunch of groups on Facebook that have people who are looking for guests, people who are looking to be a guest, and you had made a post on there I read what you wrote and I was like, I need to talk to her And so, you know, but you're a little bit different kind of guests than I've interviewed so far, which is okay, right? I gave myself permission to the outside of the box a little bit So why don't you just tell me a little bit about where are you at Compared to where you were when you were in your 20s and like how has your professional life changed? Yeah, thank you so much for asking You know as you and all your listeners, you know, it's been a very unlinear path Even though we're given we're given the roadmap at a very young age That's go to college get a job get married by the house and I did subscribe to that and at 20 When I got pregnant and had to drop out of college It became really apparent that my path wasn't gonna be that so I was studying in Florence, Italy Going to go and say I got my third year got pregnant dropped out and went into banking That lasted a couple years and then I applied to be an insurance agent. I had no business I had no business applying to be a business owner as a college dropout and a single mom in a field I mean, this is two decades ago, which is insane in a very male dominated field Walking into that room with no qualifications, you know, they wanted six figures in the bank they wanted a college degree and I didn't have any of those and I think the night if it a of a 20 year old or 20 how old a 24 year old back then Really helped me with that confidence to say I think I think I could do this and they saw something in me as well and so I opened my State Farm insurance agency in 2008 and Oh Insurance wasn't my jam. Ah I've worked really hard for 10 years growing it from the ground up.
I really hustled I really grinded and there's stories and permission slips all sprinkled all throughout that journey But I hired my first business coach back then and she encouraged me to start coaching my team, right? so I had a large team back then and I would coach them on sales and Strategy and insurance products, you know typical coaching session that I want my team to sell and learn and after After months of that the team leaned in and they're like, okay, we get all of that But could you coach me on like I'm having a problem with a roommate Can we walk through that or I have this nagging credit card? I just can't pay it off I don't know what to do and it's so frustrating to see the interest rack up when I'm doing everything I can can we get some coaching around that? so I started coaching my team both on business strategy and life stuff and it quickly became my favorite day of the week as One does I posted on social media Monday is my favorite day I get a coach my team and after about a year folks started reaching out to me and saying could you coach me? I have that thing. I have that question. And so my coaching practice started about 12 years ago organically And so I scaled my my business and my team runs it now and I'm able to Fully lean in to the crew and my coaching practice and and my passion.
That's so awesome I love I love organic stories. That's the best when I was younger in my early 20s I try to make it, you know plan everything out schedule everything out control everything There was a lot of things that happened that did not go has planned The huge learning experience for me So the organic path I think is one of the best things that we can experience Because we don't always know what all the opportunities are right or the people that will right permission to give it a try Yeah to really analyze and ask yourself and become a scientist and get curious like do I like this? I made a hypothesis that this direction was going to be the direction I wanted and while you're in it and walking through it Can you be curious enough to say is this it is what I thought it was gonna be and then if the answer is no Let's let's take a different next step Absolutely. So, you know what I do and obviously our listeners do too and I talk with people about this kind of thing a lot because It's in two ways.
So I think that people are so confused by health information nutrition And a lot of that is because of the noise there's so much noise But I imagine it doesn't matter what you're talking about. It's the internet. It's social media.
It's all the things right? And so people take in that noise and kind of process it and then think that they have to change what they're doing So I really want to talk about this because this is what I see and I believe so strongly in consistency So making a plan being consistent and then evaluating What you did and how did that go, right? Because obviously you could give yourself permission every day to do something different But it's probably not going to be the outcome that you want, right? So can you speak to that a little bit? Yes, and this it takes me back to Covid and Because we have so much different sort of time I found myself on social media a lot more and one day I decided, you know I really need to start baking sourdough bread What there's I could barely handle a hello fresh box The only reason I thought that I needed to become a sourdough bread aficionado was because of the noise Like you said of what I was seeing online and what influence were telling me I needed to do Where I needed to become in order to whatever like maximize the pandemic whatever whatever it is And so I can completely Understand because we've all been there. You see this next shiny thing You see the different supplement the different workout routine the different health coach, you know who might be Promising a six-pack abs in five days and you're like, oh my gosh Dreamy and so I think that is one of the biggest permission slips is permission to be consistent For long enough not forever But for long enough so you can figure out if it's working for you if you like it if there's any tweaks You need to make and permission to let it be boring, right? Yeah, so permission to start small and In this podcast group we had already met and chatted a little bit But recently you posted again about your running story when we talked about it in your bio a little bit Can you just speak to that because this is something in health and I'm sure with what you do to you That is so so important people want to jump to the wolves if you will and do this 180 degree difference. I'm gonna be a brand new person I'm gonna change everything in my life and then depending on their capacity They either crash in a day or a week or a month, but they always crash in my experience I have done this many times.
So I'm definitely not shaming anyone or faulting anyone This literally was my personality and I still have a little bit of tendency for that So I like empathize with people very much about that. Can you just speak to this? Yeah to hear your take Yeah, absolutely And you know talk about boring what we see out there on the internet is the half marathon is the ma is the medals you know in the runners teeth or The podcast that's been launched or the dream that's been accomplished what we don't see is Starting small we don't see the baby steps that it takes to get to crossing that finish line And so I have been a runner my whole life, but off again on again runner my whole life I've run a couple half marathons, but every time I ran a half marathon. I really wasn't leaning into my identity I was just I had a goal and The goal was to finish and then because I didn't think about identity like who I was becoming as soon as I crossed that finish line I threw my shoes in the back of the closet and they stayed there for six months a year a year and a half like A really long time until things started changing Maybe my body started aching, you know and talking to me in a little bit and I had this desire to start running again So this has happened to me recently desire to start running again cuz I do love Ronnie I love when I can run with ease and listen to a podcast and get into flow And I really do get most of my creative ideas from running But as you said, there's no way I could go from zero miles to a half marathon in any sexy amount of time It doesn't look good.
And so I gave myself permission to a start again So a lot of us think that just because we stopped something and we have to start again were failures wrong Like no, it is brave is brave to start again Whatever that is picking up the guitar, you know nutrition exercise having an intense relation or conversation with your partner Right starting again is a brave thing I had to give myself permission to start again and then permission to kind of be pathetic now I know that sounds super harsh and judgy, but it's how I felt like I Knew that I didn't want to hurt myself. And so I started with a goal of running point to five miles No, I'm like don't you miss hear me not two miles not one mile up quarter of a mile and I went out and did it and it wasn't pretty and it wasn't glamorous and I posted on social media and I said Oh my god, I'm running. I'm a runner again point two five miles and then you know The next week is a half mile, etc, etc And I'm up to one and a half but the permission to start really small I think is one that we miss because that's almost with anything imperative to start there And I want to be a catalyst for women like I want to show that that's embarrassing pathetic unsexy But I don't care.
That's how we start. That's how goals are got And so I will shout from the top of my you know, the top of the roofs Granting permission to start very very small build the consistency like you preach so that the goal is compound the actions compound and Eventually you become like all my goal is simple too. It's only three miles.
That's all I want to be able to do right now I just want three miles with ease and I'm getting there because I started at a quarter, right? Yeah And so I love this because you have your goal in mind Like do you have a run or race or something that you're working towards like it's no But I was just thinking about that I have a coaching community and I was just thinking about maybe Doing something to see if people wanted to do a 5k with me walk run Whatever that is been on my mind for sure. So yes, I'm gonna say yes So certainly you can have this goal and start small without having a big end goal My husband is one of those people that gets like he has to do the really big thing like here in Colorado It's the triple bypass, you know, there's all these big huge races and runs all over the country. I'm sure I'm like What if you just did something else like I get it that you want to have an organized thing that you're working up to a specific Date but it doesn't always have to start there, right? And now you're already thinking about that partially I think because you have the confidence in your ability, right? Even though you were a runner before you today you're like I can do this.
I feel Well, but and the reason I wanted to run again had nothing to do with crossing any finish line. It was hell I really want to lean into boosting my energy Finding my flow and my creativity and getting back to like listening to inspiring podcasts It had nothing to do with a goal. It really didn't it was just identity I'm wanting to lean back into and so what another what a great permission slip to grant ourselves to do things without a Specific outcome.
Yeah, no, that's super good my podcast I don't have a dream of having, you know hundred thousand downloads an episode. It's sharing stories And so it's like oh, it's okay to do big things like a podcast or running without Attaching a massive goal to it kind of makes it more fun and joyful for me. No, I I think you're right I think there's a lot of people who have done that because it's just What you do kind of like you mentioned at the beginning you just go to college when you're done I have two boys in high school They have talked about not going to college now their parents both have been to college many times you know, and so it's like I think at first even though I Feel a little differently about college than I did when I went to college.
I am much more open-minded about it now But still it does take you back a little bit and those are just things that are entrenched in your personality I think so Can you talk about that a little bit just kind of like is it like habits? Is it just the repeat things that you've heard through your whole life and this it's in the way of permission, right? Absolutely, and I think it's a mix of all of that and is our cultural conditioning, right? We've all been conditioned to believe certain things to subscribe to a way of life that is quote-unquote acceptable to everybody else and women, especially I don't think pause and Get selfish. I really love helping women get a bit selfish and asking ourselves Is this is this what I want? Is this path of what I want? And if the answer is no Can you grant yourself permission to just experiment with something else or can you grant yourself permission to set just one little baby boundary? Or can you grant yourself permission to say no without an explanation? I love that because I think what I've heard from a lot of people is they're like, well, I have this career I do enjoy my work, but it's burning me out or something like that But I don't want to give it up or they're afraid of giving it up or they're afraid of giving up their income or something Like that's and so they're so tunnel vision that they can't think outside of the box or maybe it's identity as a runner Or identity as an athlete or something like that And if they could just zoom out a little bit, I feel like within anything that we do There's so many alternatives and ways to yourself that you can't really see when you're zoomed in so far Yeah, something I work on a lot with my clients is because their idea of health has been counting calories or over exercising Or burning the candle and a lot of women just take care of everyone else They don't take care of themselves And what happens if they have kids in particular is that their kids get to an age where their kids are a little bit more Independent so they have more time in their hands. I can speak to this personally.
My boys are 15 and 16 right now And so one of them's driving. I don't have to drive them everywhere You know, like all of a sudden I have this extra time and it's been challenging for me to grant myself permission I'm like this is time for me Like no one is telling me I have to do something at a certain time or it's like free time that I'm getting And I think sometimes it's hard for us to switch gears because even though I know that intellectually in my mind I'm like, oh, but I'm still a mom and I'm still this and I have my business and you know for sure for the listeners who still have the like kiddos who are needy and at home my Invitation would be different start practice prioritizing yourself now though that you don't Get to where we are and go who am I? What do I want and what am I even doing with my life and you're you question 30 minutes of free time, right? You're like, oh gosh, what am I gonna do? Yeah, and for the people who are taking care of others I know you've heard the same for your own oxygen mask on first Yeah before helping others and I really really hate the same because what if and it's really only told to women The underlying message that this tells us is that the only reason to save ourselves literally put on an oxygen mask The only reason to do that is so as a woman you can then help someone else Why in the world like we are we are conditioned and fed that our sole purpose here is to help others When really if there isn't an emergency, which is where that metaphor comes from I want us to grant our permission to save ourselves full stop. That's it It's like you can't pour from an empty cup.
Well, who says I have to pour what if I want a full cup right now? So in my in my coaching community, I say, you know, like yeah, you can't pour from an empty cup But I don't want you to pour what I want you to do is fill your cup up. So full It's overflowing. It's splashing out and it and that's and the splashes are what other people get and it's enough Because what I know as women is we are gonna help people we're gonna put the up We're going to put the oxygen mask on someone else Absolutely, but that doesn't have to be the reason you save yourself.
That doesn't have to be the reason you pour to your cup I want I want to grant women permission or people in general permission to fill themselves up because they're worth it I think that's such a good way of thinking about it And I love that you pointed that out because it's not always easy to point out some of these things right that we're like And they're very obscure or like underlying and we don't always see it until someone points it out to us So yeah, absolutely Absolutely. Very important. Do you experience much? Or many of your clients or people in your collective that have perfectionism And how would you say that perfectionism is making things worse if you will or what would you say? Absolutely.
I think this gets I think perfectionism, you know, it's interesting I don't see myself as the perfectionist, but I also do see myself as a recovering procrastinator And I think they are like I think they're twins. They're cousins. They're really closely aligned for sure one of the Faculty coaches inside the crew so we all choose a word of the year.
Do you choose a word for your year? What's your word this year integrity? Oh Beautiful, my word is Yeah, yeah Personal to myself. Yes Everyone else but it was yeah And we can talk about that for sure keeping promises to ourselves It's way harder than keeping the promises moving to everybody else So one of the faculty coaches in the crew her work for the year you're going to laugh is mediocre I love it. Yes, and she's a perfectionist and in her she believes and she's trying to Get rid of this identity.
She believes like it's not worth it unless I can be really good at it And she's like I just want to be a mediocre banjo player I don't want to be really good But I want to I want to be able to when he's married to a musician when her the friend around and they're all playing She's like I want to jam But but being a mediocre banjo player is okay. And so for the perfectionist That's what I would get curious about is like can I practice? Mediocrity, this is only for the perfectionist, right? It's not for you know, it's to answer that question But it's just like oh, what could I be okay at and be okay with being just okay. I love that That's so awesome.
Maybe younger. I know it's I know when she told me I was like wait What and that makes perfect sense now Well, I think also for people and I think everyone in general But I always think of women with this situation and this is what I always say is I'm like a pie and I only have So many slices to my pie, you know, so if I take on one other thing That's like totally different than all of the normal things that I do and this is all my stuff included too But like then also my kids my family my business whatever you can't keep slicing the pie because there's only one me And if you do then you're basically taking energy time all of that away from everything else And I kind of have gotten to this point where it's kind of like a breaking point, you know And some of this is back from my time where I was just said yes to everything I was the yes girl, you know, and I definitely am NOT like that now I would say sometimes I'm almost a little bit too much on the other way Where I'm sitting in a meeting or something and I'm like don't say anything curious. Don't say it Don't say yes.
Don't put your hand up because I'm concerned about getting to that place again Yeah, so for sure. I burnt out like because of that. I had that Experience when I was in the insurance agency hustling and grinding and really morphing myself into someone I wasn't and I was winning all the awards our agency was at the top of every list I was going to paris and Bermuda and all the cool places and earning these trips and in the office one day I had a panic attack.
I didn't know what it was. I had never experienced anything like that or Mental health was not talked about in my family whatsoever. Emotions were really Something to avoid and so landed in the emergency room thinking I was having a heart attack and the doctor was like Oh, this is the classic panic attack.
And I was like, do you know who I am? I don't I don't have time for that My pie is full like panic attack is not fitting into this equation But it was a wake-up call that I needed to realize that like I had overfed everything else And me and my health mental physical emotional got to the point where the body Is like you're done because you're not listening anymore That's your body giving you signals and that was a really loud one You probably had some ones before that that and maybe push them aside. I know I did for years And a lot of people do and this is what I hear too from women who get to our age like 40s 50s And they're like why did everything start to fall apart? You know They're they get the kids and they're taking care of their parents and they're at a place in their career where they're doing more And responsible for more and it's bigger But I think it's all and obviously our bodies are changing during this time too I think it's also just the amount of time That we've pushed through push through those symptoms push through those ideals of what we should be doing and kind of ignoring Our own sense from a mental emotional standpoint, but also from a physical standpoint. Yeah permission to pause Permission to learn enough about you so when I say how are you feeling you actually can go inside in your body and Answer with honesty.
We are not taught this We're taught to be fine and just like you said to push through like that's what strong women do, right? That's what that's what it takes You can't soften which I think is when we soften when we feed ourselves first when we take care of ourselves Focus on the nutrition and the body and the mind is all related We're able to do so much more for everyone and ourselves like the sky is the limit at that point for sure I mean, this is for me just so connected with the nervous system and you know your nervous system If i've had some serious signals from my certain nervous system over the years and everybody's signal is going to be a little bit different because you're an individual and So that awareness piece is so so important of how to tap into that Like we need to like tell I don't have a daughter But like I mean for my boys too, but because their situation is a little bit different and like the expectations Yes, expectations. Oh, yeah, it's a men, right? But I think whether you're a young man or a young woman You have a right to take care of yourself and then also work hard Those two things can coexist you hear so much about these younger generations of like they're lazy They're this they prioritize this and that and yes That may come across that way. If you've been a grinder or you were brought up in school, whatever But at the same time like what is that person going to be capable of doing at some point their midlife? Where other people have completely fried themselves, you know Yeah, my work for the year as I mentioned is grit which one would probably assume that means like hustling grind But it's very much an and it's intentional intentional purposeful Slow consistent grit not the kind that burns you out and being really aware of like Oh, i'm napping more than I usually do that's a signal to me something's going on, right? And it could be a nap a panic attack.
I mean, what are some other symptoms of this that you see in your clients? So I mean so many things I can't even tell you I mean I was talking to a lady the other day hers was headaches So she's like, you know, i've kind of just been plagued by headaches my whole life and I don't like do You know how a functional medicine doctor will oftentimes do like a really extensive history like decades long But I feel like you can ask a lot of questions to get things out of people and really this woman was in her 60s And she's been having headaches for 40 years, you know, and i'm like, can you think back of like the times when the headaches were the worst? She's like always under stress mental stress emotional stress physical stress. I'm like, okay So the body doesn't really know any different right? It's like it's a stressor and so Isn't that sympathetic state and the headache for her was just like yeah, that was her thing I see a lot of like bowel stuff digestive You know the nervous system and the digestive tract are intimately connected And even people who just are rushed a lot or running a lot, you know Just like busy busy busy. We kind of have this badge of busy honor, too I see that a lot with Women in particular but men too and they just they don't even really know how to down regulate To their parasympathetic nervous system or at the end of the day, they need like alcohol something, right? To like slam them down Yes.
Yes. Yes. So for everybody listening you're not alone and Starts with awareness and then I would I would imagine you probably have the same sense.
It's like experiment experiment with something very small That won't burn you out even more and just get curious like oh, how does it feel not having coffee afternoon? Or oh How does it feel to stop drinking water after eight so that I can sleep through the night or you know The simple little things that aren't going to totally blow your mind and make you even more stressed Yes, absolutely And that's honestly like the last previous three episodes were really about that things you can do That to kind of replace or adjunct those habits I believe so strongly in habits and rituals and how they like how our body tunes into them Because when you're doing something regularly like you go outside every morning and see morning light and go for a little walk Your body is like expecting that it knows that that's coming Our body is run on the circadian clock. So those things are so important and to me That is also just like us granting ourselves permission if I can use your your term Do that for ourselves to be consistent and do that And then that's like a little metal We if we need that that we can wear for ourselves or the checkbox or whatever it is Because people are different and how they like to feel that acknowledgement But I do know that when you do something consistently Especially if it's supportive for you and your help or whatever you're doing your business Then you already have that intrinsic feeling you know that this is this is the right thing And if it isn't the right thing you're gonna get that message too, and that's absolutely great and you change or do whatever Yeah, you always need to change your mind like permission to change your mind is a million times Like I said on again off again runner if that's a bunch of mind changes and it's okay Permission to just try heavy lifting it for a season. Whatever you want to do You don't have to just be super grippy on every single decision that you make one of the coaches inside the crew she talks about Seeing decisions as choices not decisions because decisions feel so final.
Whereas I'm just making a different choice I love that that's super cool. So let's talk about the crew a little bit So you have a coaching practice and you also have this wonderful collective group of people called the crew Can you just tell us a little bit about that? Yes So what I found in the coaching industry is that it's very segmented, right? There's life coach business coaches and mindset coaches and productivity coaches and relationship coaches And really to get the holistic package you need to individually hire each of them which can get very cost prohibitive and as we all know we are holistic women and we know intuitively that our Goals and then the support that's needed behind those goals aren't just single faceted if i'm going to my business I also know i'm going to need some mindset support. So what I did was I hired five expert coaches So me included that six there's six coaches who are experts in their niche To come into the collective and coach on what they are experts in and so each coach provides two hours of coaching a month There's over 20 hours of live interactive coaching This would typically probably cost someone three to five thousand dollars a month and the fee for the crew is ninety seven dollars a month That's I mean I love the model of that and just like you said it is very Realistic because the word holistic and we always talk about it in my world as the integration of the body that the body is Connected in every way.
You literally cannot separate it out We try and do that in medicine But like you mentioned it literally applies to everything in our life, right? Like if we are because you hear this a lot like oh, I have my business dialed in I have my volunteer work booked out in but i'm a disaster at home or maybe I have my home life The disaster at work, right? Yes. So and also one of the things is I am also know my Gaps, right? I am not a business strategist. I'm not a health and wellness coach as the founder I'm really leaning into getting out of the way and letting these experts do what they know and teach on what they know And so molly fitter she's our health and well-being coach She's a physical therapist as well And she asked if she could do some coaching on pelvic floor strengthening and I thought what? What does that have to do with goal getting what does that have to do with coaching and After going to her session.
It was like, oh my gosh, this has everything to do with everything. I have a goal of running But if i'm feeling like incontinence is the problem, uh as I go out on my run I'm gonna stop and molly's here telling me there are ways to strengthen our pelvic floor or If i'm dealing with that same issue getting on a TEDx stage It's going to be really prohibitive because i'm going to be afraid of what's going down and it's just like we are So multifaceted that all of these things bleed into each other And so what the crew has really become is a one-stop shop Or anything that you need to make any sort of change in your life the pelvic floor I'm just smiling because I just finished about a year of physical therapy Yes And at the end it was pelvic floor therapy because I had two physical therapists to figure out. That's what I needed Not for abundance, but for hip pain I had this horrible hip pain which just came out of nowhere and Literally, I was the one that had to be like I need this I think to build this and then when I went and talked to this Company, I guess they were just like yes, you need even though it doesn't always make as much sense, but it's true That's what molly taught us just the other day.
She's like if you're having lower back pain It sounds like hip pain too. It might be pelvic floor work that needs to be done. I was like what that's wild I also heard a permission slip in what you just said You it sounds like you really advocated for your health because you knew it was something other than what these Experts were telling you and I think as women that is a critical permission slip is don't if you get an answer And it doesn't feel right permission to keep Asking permission to keep going until you're satisfied with figuring out your health.
Absolutely I mean that's just one of my missions with this podcast. Everyone knows i'm an oncology nurse I have been for almost 25 years now I am not working as an oncology nurse, but I still identify as that I would Like it took me a lot to go to nursing school and it was very much I fell in my bones that it was what I was meant to do and I have a valid nursing license I'll probably never shut that door until i'm like ready to retire One of my missions with this podcast is to make that bridge for people to help them understand That all of the daily practices have its holistic health, whatever exercise Mental all the things matter so much for your health and even if you're go to your doctor And you are on a medication and you need that person for that and that's important great But if they tell you oh your mindset doesn't matter Or it doesn't matter if you drink water or whatever the case may be you don't have to listen to that part You can do that part on your own, right? And so we need to live on this continuum of like it's not them versus us It's all of us together. We use our practitioners when we really need them if you need a surgery, of course If you have an accident, yes, you need that you need those well trained skilled people But you also have so much control over your health that you don't even realize in all foundational concepts and so it's So important to me that people stop feeling like they have to pick one or the other because you do not need to do that And medicine has come a long way.
I will say I always love to give the example of like in an infusion center So that was where I primarily worked towards the end of my career People would be like can I have a massage when I'm getting my chemotherapy or can I have my pet here as therapy or whatever? And the answer was no absolutely not, you know This it wasn't sterile, but this is like a sterile environment like, you know, it's just not safe or it's not whatever And now you go in an infusion center. I had a whole episode on that. They're doing reiki Massage their patients are asking for things.
You're getting those things and that is so important Beautiful for their nervous system and their well-being that is what they need So beautiful. Yeah, so I love I love that you said that I think it's just it's so important for people to see the connection With everything in our lives So if you don't take anything else from this episode and you literally just think about that the connected pieces of your life Then that's a great place to start in my opinion Absolutely double double down on that Well, it's so been so awesome to have you here Mari And I just can't thank you for your time and your energy and all of your good wisdom It's just I'm so it feels so fortunate to have met you and it's only the beginning awesome Thank you so much. I really appreciate this.
Thank you. Have a good day What I hope you take away from this conversation is that real change doesn't come from doing more or doing things perfectly It comes from giving yourself permission to start small Stay consistent and actually listen to your body along the way This is exactly why I focus so much on the foundations nutrition digestion circadian rhythm and nervous system regulation because your body responds to what you do consistently not occasionally and so often What's missing isn't more information It's the ability to tune out the noise and trust your own process If you connected with Mari and her message around permission You can find her at the crew life coaching collective and i'll link her website and social channels in the show notes So you can learn more about her work And if this episode made you realize that you might need a different approach to your health one that actually works with your body Instead of against it. I invite you to take my health foundations assessment It's the best place to start to understand what your body needs right now You can find that at prime to nourish.com and as always your body isn't broken It just needs the right support in the right order The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice I am not a medical doctor and this content is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease Please consult with a qualified health care professional before making any decisions related to your health Especially if you have a medical condition or are taking medications
